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What Should Go Here? Former GetGo Gas Station

The new 16-pump station opened earlier this month at the corner of Bunts Road and Detroit Avenue. That’s left a vacant gas station at Manor Park Avenue.

The new GetGo gas station at the corner of Bunts Road and Detroit Avenue has left a void across the street.

The former gas station has been vacant for a couple weeks. 

Located at the corner of Manor Park and Detroit avenues, the future of the property isn’t certain.

The land and building at 14206 Detroit Avenue are valued at $277,000, according to the Cuyahoga County Auditor’s Office.

According to the property records, Ralph Miller bought the property from the Sun Oil Co. for $114,500 in 1995. He’s owned it since. 

We thought we’d ask what you’d like to see happen to the property. What do you think? Let us know in the comments.

Rick Uldricks February 25, 2013 at 05:10 AM
Skyline Chili
Chris Olsen February 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM
it might as well be a five guys at that point, Rick Uldricks
Rick Uldricks February 25, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Great idea, Chris Olsen!
Alex Vandehoff February 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Brain Damage - Pink Floyd
John Kopecky February 25, 2013 at 02:19 PM
Considering when it was a gas station, and every time I drove by at least 7 out of 8 pumps were occupied, and considering that the new Get-Go has 16 pumps and every time I drive by it seems that 14 out of 16 pumps are occupied I'd wager that a gas station at that location would do rather well.
ian king February 25, 2013 at 04:41 PM
How about a new supermarket! Lakewood used to have at least 4 supermarkets on the East End of town. We now have 2 = Giant Ego and loser Sapell's. Why can't this city get a decent modern supermarket that is clean, has fresh produce, affordable/competitive pricing, and, heaven forbid, a nice customer friendly staff! How about a Dave's or a Heinan's or a Kroger - anything but nasty Giant Ego and mainly for alcoholics Sapell's!
The original Bill February 25, 2013 at 05:17 PM
Seriously Ian? A supermarket? That would be the smallest supermarket in the world.
The original Bill February 25, 2013 at 05:20 PM
Maybe Ralph will buy it back. For those who don't remember: Ralph owns Detroit Lakewood Automotive down the street and also owned this station when it was a Sunoco until he sold it to GetGo.
Michele February 25, 2013 at 06:36 PM
It would be nice to have some green space, maybe a bus "pulloff" like the one on the other end of Detroit. That area is full of seniors that would likely appreciate the place to sit since they all live in apartments. Lakewood is booming wonderfully, but we don't want to be so over crowded with businesses that we cannot find grass, shade and trees.
Neil Keim February 25, 2013 at 07:05 PM
I would love to have a Skyline Chili in Lakewood but I think they would be better off in the space that Five Guys used to be in. As for the GetGo lot, that property is so small that putting a business there would be out of place. I like Michele's idea of a sitting park with some nice grass and trees.
Shawn Juris February 25, 2013 at 07:08 PM
These questions of what should go here are always fun. Let's remember though that a private party, Ralph Miller, owns the parcel. Building green space into a new plan can be accomplished and has been with many of the recent projects. However, it's unlikely that an owner would sit on an undeveloped plot of land (unless his last name is Rockefeller). What seems practical in my opinion is to bookend this interesection with another property like Ross DDS. The parcel would have room for parking and landscaping. The unknown is who is looking to build and needs approx 2000 sq ft in a standalone building? Somewhat of a rare find in Lakewood and could be a great opportunity.
Dan Alaimo February 25, 2013 at 07:21 PM
Another unknown is the economic impact of the buried gas tanks. This may limit the owner's options. Also whether Giant Eagle/GetGo had some kind of "no-compete" in its lease.
John February 25, 2013 at 07:56 PM
While the link between Skyline Chili and gas is undeniable, it is very unlikely that anyone will build something related to food service on the site of a former gas station. It is unlikely that anything will be built on the site of any former gas station given the environmental concerns and audits that need to take place. Financing for anything on the site of a former gas station is a long shot. I like the idea of the green space or bus stop for all of the seniors in the neighborhood.
Hol February 25, 2013 at 09:22 PM
Ian have you ever been to Natures Bin? It's awesome!
Hol February 25, 2013 at 09:25 PM
So when the GetGo gas station pulled out they didn't have a responsibility to remove the tanks below ground? I know I'm not educated on the law but wonder who bears that responsibility? Is it safe to leave them underground? Are they completely drained I assume?
Bob Beck February 25, 2013 at 09:29 PM
The tax valuation for the property is over one-quarter million dollars so the market value would be even higher. To justify that kind of resale, ya gotta think "commercial." It's already zoned for a gas station and it always seemed busy regardless of the brand of gas being sold. Green space....for $300,000+?? Plus the cost of removing the storage tanks, which would be no small cost. A great idea but not a pragmatic solution! Food outlet? Really? It would have to be convenience food...like Quiznos or pizza or a hot dog outlet....oh those folks already tried and are gone. Maybe a Starbucks? I see another gas station in our future....with coffee and carry out food. Guessing Get-Go can't stop this site from being used as a gas station....restraint of trade.
Jesse February 25, 2013 at 11:13 PM
Another gas station is the only thing that can practically go there.
The original Bill February 25, 2013 at 11:34 PM
Correct. By law any development other than a gas station will require the underground tanks to be dug up as well as any contaminated soil. Probably a very expensive project.
Rick Uldricks February 25, 2013 at 11:40 PM
"While the link between Skyline Chili and gas is undeniable..." ROTFL!
John February 26, 2013 at 01:26 AM
Tax value bears no relation to fair market value any longer, and particularly not in the inner ring suburbs of Cuyahoga County. Sad, but true for those of us invested heavily in Lakewood.
Bob Beck February 26, 2013 at 07:30 AM
Really John...you're gonna low-ball a bid to the multi-billion deep pocket Giant Eagle Corp with its own wholly owned bank? Yah, good luck with that! Hope you are ready for a humbling lesson on valuation. You do know that the new County Government has reappraised all the properties and adjusted valuations. Those adjusted values more accurately reflect current market value and current market conditions than anytime in the last three decades.
Lakewood Matt February 26, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Hi Bob, I'm a bit confused. What bank does Giant Eagle own? They partner with several banks but, to the best of my knowledge, do not own a single one.
Mark justmark February 26, 2013 at 04:54 PM
@ John - From the Cuyahoga County's website: "Your annual property tax bill is determined by the taxable value of your property multiplied by the tax rate levied by Cuyahoga County, your city, your school district and your library district. Your taxable value is 35% of market value for real property."
ian king February 26, 2013 at 10:13 PM
Howdy! Yes, I am a big support of Nature's Bin, as it fills a niche/boutique need for some food items. But, it is not a supermarket on any level. I was being a bit whimsical with suggesting another grocery store - of course the lot is way too small, but doesn't Lakewood, especially east of Warren, need a real full service supermarket that isn't as horrible as the Giant Ego on Detroit or ugh! Sapell's? I think the park or Starbuck's is a great suggestion. I just don't want to see yet another empty, industrial blighted building decaying in this location for the next several years. Nor should city planning officials either!
Dan Alaimo February 26, 2013 at 10:18 PM
Thinking about it: didn't they replace the Shell (and a good mechanic!) at Warren-Madison with Sherwin-Williams pretty quickly?
Bob Beck February 27, 2013 at 05:47 AM
Hey Lakewood Matt....you don't have a Giant Eagle credit card to charge groceries. Oops...it's a World Financial Bank CC...so you are correct...they don't own it. I think...I'll check with my friends at the Fed. The Huntington Bank branches in their stores are not owned by them...just a great business arrangement and a customer convenience.
John February 28, 2013 at 01:27 AM
I recognize that is what the website for the County says. Years ago (pre-2008) the values were significantly less than FMV. When property values were rapidly declining from and after 2008 there was a brief period (only a few months) when the county values equaled FMV. Since that time however, FMV has been significantly lower than the county appraised values. Don't take my word for it, rather ask any realtor that lists homes in Lakewood.
John February 28, 2013 at 01:30 AM
History will prove Jesse's prediction to be correct unless the City of Lakewood, or RTA acquires the property.

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