I suppose I should start this off by announcing that I’m Pro-Choice.
I cannot understand what role government has in legislating morality, especially on religious grounds. I think Prohibition proved what a massive failure that can be. I don’t believe that abortion is “murder,” and I do believe that Roe v. Wade has done a pretty good job of finding a nice middle ground for (what I can understand to be) a very complex debate.
But that hasn’t stopped the discussion from not only continuing, but getting more bizarre by the day.
While Ohio's was being voted down in the defeat it deserved in November, voters in Mississippi were trouncing a Republican-led “personhood” amendment to their state constitution called Initiative 26, which defined life as “every human being from the moment of fertilization, cloning or the functional equivalent thereof.”
I would like to take a moment to back up and examine a few things about that.
First, on a basal level, I’m going to need someone to explain to me why Republicans are trying to get the government to tell a woman unambiguously that she can’t have an abortion, when Republicans are the “small government” party. I find it more than a little ironic that I’m on one side of the fence accusing radical Republicans of lately, and then defending their party's belief system on this issue. It’s a seemingly-glaring hypocrisy in their platform.
I suppose it might have to do with their assertion that an abortion is a murder, but that seems to open up a lot more questions, like, “If an abortion procedure is an attempted murder, why haven’t any abortion doctors been killed by fetuses out of self-defense?”
I hate logic. It makes our political problems so amusingly and ironically simple to solve.
Another bit to admire about this was that it was Mississippi voters who rejected this state amendment. I don’t want to put too fine a point on this, but Mississippi doesn’t really have a stunning resume when it comes to having their finger squarely on the pulse of moral decency. This is the state where the police, in combination with the KKK, executed three men trying to register African Americans to vote during the Civil Rights Movement. These people don’t have a track-record on understanding the appropriate place to draw the line when it comes to the concept of murder.
So, congratulations to Mississipians for having the common sense to realize that a fertilized egg does not count as a viable life form. Not every fertilized egg makes it to the uterus. Some of them get washed away during a woman’s period. So, by this logic, and as George Carlin once put it, “Any woman who's had more than one period is a serial killer.”
Since other states will probably have “personhood” amendments coming to a state ballot near you, I think it’s time we stopped the discussion altogether, before it gets nasty. Let’s stop all the arguing, and let’s see what happens when a group in this country finally, and indisputably, gets their way.
Let’s just go ahead and make Initiative 26 a federal law. In fact, just so there’s no more arguing, let’s amend the Constitution to clearly state that abortion is murder, and therefore a felony.
You win, Christian Conservative America. You get everything you want on this one.
There. That feels better, doesn’t it? I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders, and finally we can shut up and deal with something else.
Of course... I’m a man.
For that woman who’s going to get an abortion anyway, we’re gonna have to send a cop after both her, and the abortion doctor who’s performing the procedure. They’re both accomplices to murder. And since it’s a federal law, I would suggest hiring special agents like they did during Prohibition (but that would be another expansion of big government and nobody wants that).
But there are still some loose ends to tie up here; because, like Carlin says, every woman with a birth control device in her purse or a tampon in her trash might be a killer, too. SO, I guess we’re going to have to get some local detectives out there looking for evidence in the trash cans across America, and some CSI dudes to do the forensic analysis. These are murders. They can’t just go uninvestigated.
But, somehow, some way, we’ll figure out how to enforce the law on these killers. And even though the police force will be overwhelmed with investigations, and the courts will be choked with hung juries that can’t come to a unanimous decision as to whether or not “that time of the month” should result in “a lifetime in prison,” we will know in our hearts that we’ll succeed in doing the right thing.
Just like Prohibition.
And, finally, when every woman who has had unprotected sex is in prison for murder, we will finally be closer to solving one of mankind's greatest problems!
Himself.
I hate logic. It makes our political problems so amusingly and ironically simple to solve.
“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.” — Adolf Hitler, to General Gerhard Engel, 1941" because he said it, I know it to be a lie and you should too. ... "
the anology between the Holocaust and abortion is Right On. As an Irishman who is an heir to the 1 million deaths of the "Famine" I say that Callie E is far more on track than you. You are not the only person who can claim massive dead relatives. Armenians, Native Americans, the Irish and Muslims also have this claim. If individuals of these groups have come to the conclusion that life begins at conception we do not deserve to be grouped with those evil ones who would try to desecrate a woman's life (and I say try because I believe in a God who knows the dignity of every life through every trial).
I want no place in you or your husband's person, but I am not an "island". When what I see as life is washed away for any reason I am diminished. And if I "stand idly by" I am guilty of cowardice and selfishness.
Thank you for finally being honest, James. That's it. "Your god." You believe your god is the only god and your god is obviously right. Hasn't that mentality started plenty of wars throughout the centuries? If you haven't looked around in a while, there are many, many religions throughout the world. I'd like to think your Jesus would at least tolerate other religions if not love them because we are all human and all share the same blood, but then again, maybe your Jesus isn't as kind as some of the others I've read about. There are billions upon billions of people in this world and a plethora of religions, too. Who really knows? No one. Not you. Not me. No one. Anyone who says they do is definitely someone to beware of... The realistic thing isn't that we don't know everthing, it is that we don't know anything. None of us know anything. It's all part of the journey. "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."- Stephen Roberts I'm aware I've posted that quote before. I hope you understand that quote James, but I'm not sure you will.
No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as a manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Replace the word man with whichever word for humanity you wish. I am a man so I say man, if you are a woman, and say woman the meaning does not change. If you say child the meaning does not change. If you say fetus......?
And you speak of logic, yet make the ludicrous statement that if abortion is murder, why no fetuses have killed abortion doctors in self defense? That is the best that you can do for a logical argument? Wow! Regarding Republicans being small government (actually not universally true, it's conservatives that are for small government) but wanting to legislate morality, you obvioiusly haven't ever reviewed the criminal code, which is all about legislating morality, from prohibiting theft, murder, trespass, etc. What you miss is that conservatives are all for protecting individual liberty, but when one views a fetus as a separate and completely innocent human being, one cannot support abortion as an option. Conservatives believe that government has a place in protecting the innocent life, and no life is more innocent than that of a baby. And by the way, you have not only not solved anything with this article, you have only proven that you cannot even articulate a logical argument in support of your position.
SO ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT ALL THE PEOPLE STARVING IN AFRICA AND YOUNG GIRLS BEING SOLD INTO PROSTITUTION HAVE A LESSER "RIGHT TO CHOOSE" THAN A WOMAN WHO FINDS HERSLEF IN WITH AN UNWANTED PREGANCY? I mean why does she deserve more of a choice than the millions of children who die hungry , the victims of genocide in Rwonda, i mean the list goes on and on. THE WORLD IS FULL OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO ENDURE HELL ON EARTH. . what about the people that are crying out right now? WHERE IS THEIR DAMN 'RIGHT TO CHOOSE?" We need to learn that none of us has a 'RIGHT' to anything. Everything we get is a gift. maybe if we spent more time being grateful for what we have instead of bemoaning what we dont then finding ourselves in a crisis pregnancy is not the end of life. We need to get over this entitlement mentality.LIfe is a gift. and you dont need to have Faith to believe that. None of us knows what will become of any child brought into the world under the best or the worst of conditions. LIve and let live. Give the child the 'RIGHT TO LIFE" and the mom can go live her life.Karyn are you a mom? Did you go around telling people you were carryign aorund some cells that you might come to love someday? AGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Of me you say "You believe your god is the only god and your god is obviously right. Hasn't that mentality started plenty of wars throughout the centuries?" This is fact I cannot deny. Can you deny that on a day to day level "my God" and "my God's followers" are also those who gave the most of themselves to "Feed His Flock"? Come to my church and you will see. Will you deny that the "non god" of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Min, Castro, Kim Il Sung and Hitler surpassed all others for their brutality in trying to eliminate those who profess any God? You seem to allow these inhumanities a pass. You quote Stephen Roberts, I'll quote Leonard Cohen:"For you've never had a vision, and you never have been tempted; by the devil or the Lord."
I wish I had had the ability to state what you have said as well as you have. Thank You.
are we back to talking about the actual blog?
Oh, and by the way, conservatives have been shown to contribute much more to charity than liberals, and the Catholic Churche definitely does its part to take care of the poor and the unwanted.
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- Rick Santorum calls a pregnancy which occurs because of a rape, “a gift in a very broken way”
I am a Christian and a Conservative. I do not hate Gays, Blacks, Hispanics,Poor People,Non-Christians, or Anyone else. I am against abortion because God said " I knew you before I put you in the womb" Jeremiah Chapter 1. God intends for us to be the Stewards of His creation. The Obamacare is part of the Socialist package being rammed down our throats.