Cross Detroit Avenue at Your Own Risk

Lakewood Patch spent some time looking into complaints over whether motorists ignored the pedestrian crossing signals at Detroit Avenue.


During the past few months, we’ve received several tips that motorists were ignoring the pedestrian crosswalk at Manor Park and Detroit avenues, creating a dangerous situation for those crossing the street.

So, I decided to check it out.

In about 45 minutes, I found that very few people stop at the crosswalk, as required by law. Many of those motorists were very clearly texting while driving. 

Bethany August 14, 2013 at 01:11 AM
Those drivers should get a ticket!
dav2861 August 14, 2013 at 07:34 AM
I have had several close calls. I even witnessed an RTA bus pass me by on the way to the bus shel
Ray Speen August 14, 2013 at 07:38 AM
You can't expect them to stop while their texting!
Gary Hudson August 14, 2013 at 07:44 AM
Simple. Put the light back! People are more important.
Ray Speen August 14, 2013 at 08:17 AM
Sorry, while THEY'RE texting. I was texting that while at a red light and my "smart" phone put in the wrong word!
Dru McKeown August 14, 2013 at 08:32 AM
My favorite is the people that honk and pull up extremely close to the pedestrians in the crosswalk in a threatening manner. I think Lakewood Police could make a pretty penny at that intersection. Possibly enough to replace that poor crossing sign that gets crushed at least twice a week (that I know of). As it is, the section of Detroit between Manor Park and Bunts seems too wide by about 2 lanes, tightening that down some could also do a bit of good in slowing traffic.
Loretta Bowlby August 14, 2013 at 08:33 AM
This is horrible. I agree, put the light back...
Ray Speen August 14, 2013 at 08:44 AM
Detroit, in general, is harder to cross than the Amazon in flood season.
ian king August 14, 2013 at 10:04 AM
Why is there not a pedestrian crossing signal on detroit in front of the library? It is ridiculous, extremely poor city planning and basically is anti-walking to make pedestrians walk up to cvs/stoplight then turn around and walk back to the library to cross detroit. the library is probably one of the most used building in downtown lakewood and should have much easier access. someone in a wheelchair, elderly folks with walkers/canes, people carrying shopping bags, etc. - this is very inconvenient and makes no sense. then add to this rainy days, snow and ice days, etc. Whoever made this decision to not place a pedestrian cross at Mars and Detroit obviously doesn't walk downtown Lakewood. PLEASE place a pedestrian cross here before someone gets hurt/injured. AND make walking downtown Lakewood easier for those of us who walk!
Angie Schleicher August 14, 2013 at 10:46 AM
As a vision impaired walker in this neighborhood, crossing Detroit always feels to me like I'm risking certain death. That may sound like an exaggeration, but it is the honest truth. And waiting for the cross signal a block or two down (before and after CVS) requires a lot of patience, as they can go several cycles before giving the walk light.
Ken Lipka August 14, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Thanks Colin for doing this article. This corner is a nightmare waiting to happen. I bike this intersection daily going to work and yes I have seen many close calls. The light needs to return immediately before something horrible happens.
Christina Dziak August 14, 2013 at 11:03 AM
I was fortunate that when I was out on my run this morning, a driver stopped as I was crossing the intersection. I think it's not only this intersection but people not paying attention at all intersections, particularly when there is only a stop sign. As a runner, I have encountered drivers numerous times rolling through stop signs and not paying attention to runners, pedestrians and walkers. It's unfortunate that people would rather look at their phone than pay attention to their surroundings. I was practically hit this morning because a driver was looking at her phone and rolled through a stop sign. Motorists in general need to pay attention to what is on the road and not what is on their phone.
Colin McHale August 14, 2013 at 11:26 AM
When the McDonald's went in, they took out the traffic light and cross walks at Hall & Detroit, and never changed the striping on the road for the turn lanes. When I've asked the street department about it (since McDonald's go-ers are always sitting in the left turn lane for Hall drivers), they told me "that's a suicide left, we have them all over the city". I don't think the city really cares, which is unfortunate for both motorists and pedestrians.
Ryan Reardon August 14, 2013 at 12:14 PM
I agree people need to stop when pedestrians are crossing But on a sidenote a lot of these streets when you're pulling onto Madison or Detroit are dangerous because joggers and bikers seem to think they always have the right away and driving a car you need to creep up into the intersection to see if traffic is coming with all the cars parked on the street. I am dreading the day I pull up and a biker goes up over the hood of my car.
Ray Speen August 14, 2013 at 01:14 PM
I agree with Ian King, there REALLY needs to be a light or crosswalk at the library!
kris August 14, 2013 at 01:54 PM
Yes bring this light back in front of Manor Park AND the one in front of the Library. What was the city thinking???
Charles Milsaps August 14, 2013 at 03:47 PM
FYI, Pedestrians do have the "right of way"(right away?). As a walker and biker, I just wish, once, once, a car would stop at the large white line painted in the road, corresponding to the stop sign or signal, before shooting over the line, crosswalk and parking lane to see if they can make it out into traffic with out having to actually stop. The worst are drivers sitting over the crosswalk, blocking all pedestrian traffic while waiting to turn right on red, when the sign above says " no turn on red". Lakewood is touted as being bike and pedestrian friendly, but as pedestrian and cyclist, I can not agree.
Joe Slops August 14, 2013 at 03:58 PM
@ Charles Milsap: I agree with you 100% about cars stopping at the white line, not inside crosswalk. However, as many of us who drive in Lakewood, its nearly impossible to see on coming traffic at the white lines due to the amount of cars parked on Detroit/Madison totally obstructing the view. You nearly have to pull halfway out into the street before seeing if the road is clear. Again, another very dangerous situation.
Ryan Reardon August 14, 2013 at 04:04 PM
Charles, When it comes to right of-way if we don't all work together someone's going to get killed. Do me a favor and drive south on Winton Avenue and see how well you can pull onto Madison Avenue without pulling almost halfway out into the street.
Amanda August 14, 2013 at 04:08 PM
Whenever I am walking down Detroit it is with my son in a stroller and even though I would have the right of way I always stop and check for traffic. I also always cut up manor park from Clifton when driving and the light needs to go back! It's hard to see around the corner and sometimes bikers come along while watching for traffic and waiting to turn who where not close by when making the initial stop at the line. Lakewood is an awesome place to be able to walk anywhere from home but we really need better intersections.
Ryan Reardon August 14, 2013 at 04:12 PM
Agreed Amanda, even in a car if we come to a complete stop we still cant see anything without pulling up over the crosswalk and that will be when an accident happens.
Charles Milsaps August 14, 2013 at 04:20 PM
I agree it difficult see with cars parked on the street. I only ask that people actually stop at the white line first, before proceeding. most do not, and that is where people do get hurt. I see it a few times a week. Last time the cyclist was knocked of his bike, thrown into traffic. Luckily it was not busy and the cyclist was not seriously injured. I waved a patrol car down and the 2 officers didn't seem to concerned... of course the driver lied and told the officers she had stopped at the line and only hit him after inching out into traffic... She lied, knowing she broke the law and hurt someone. Again, ALL I ask is that Lakewood motorist stop at white line before proceeding. After that, everyone just has to watch out for each other.
lakerockbay August 14, 2013 at 05:34 PM
Try walking on Clifton going east,at the Bunts intersection.the bus shelter and garbage can blocks the view of everyone who tries to go left on Bunts headed south.Very dangerous at night walking the dog!No bus shelter, or garbage can,on Clifton should be that close to a corner crosswalk.Bunts is the only bus shelter close to the coner.Lets hope when they put in the new shelters its moved away from the corner!
Daniel W. August 14, 2013 at 11:13 PM
Good job with this story!
ian king August 15, 2013 at 07:51 AM
these comments are all great and really are spot on. does anyone know if the officials that be in lakewood ever read the citizens comments? does the mayor read the patch? city hall? lets hope they do or maybe colin you can just send all of city hall links to the patch every day!
Heather Lambert-Shemo August 15, 2013 at 10:10 AM
I believe that we can all email this article, which includes comments, to the mayor and our city council-person. If not, send them a quick email and attach the link.
Cory Roberts August 15, 2013 at 02:49 PM
Lakewood Police need to get on this! All you need to do is start writing tickets. Lakewood city gets money, people are safer, and no one can say they didn't deserve the ticket for directly breaking the law. Everyone wins.
vernon August 19, 2013 at 12:03 PM
my gripe is with drivers at Warren/detroit; northbound left-turners block intersection in all directions in violation of state law, same with west-bound drivers on detroit knowing they can't get thru intersection. Are they in that much of a hurry??
Christina Cocchiarale Ward September 02, 2013 at 02:48 PM
You HAVE to stop if WITHIN the crosswalk. THAT makes sense. If someone is waiting to cross, they obviously wait for a break in traffic, or should. Read the sign. Very simply stated.


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