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Residents Fed Up With Drug Mart, Family Dollar Construction

Grace Avenue neighbor shares her thoughts on the progress of the new development.

 

Construction vehicles; increased traffic; and noise from construction.

These are just a few of the concerns of several neighbors of the Discount Drug Mart and Family Dollar construction projects on Detroit Avenue.

Although the frames and walls are up, the projects — both expected to be finished by June — aren’t moving along quickly enough for residents on nearby Grace and Cohasett avenues.

Signs were recently posted on both streets prohibiting construction vehicles from driving on them.

Neighbors reached out to Lakewood City Hall for help.

Dru Siley, the city’s director of planning and development, said he’s working with neighbors to address some of the concerns.

Marie-France Schreiber, who lives three doors north of the Family Dollar site on Grace Avenue, wrote a letter to Lakewood Patch sharing her frustration with the progress of the development.

She’s not the only person who’s expressed disappointment with the projects.

Here’s the full letter sent by Schreiber:

For those of us who have and are enduring the construction day after day on these two sites, an estimated completion date of Summer 2013 is unacceptable.

It does not take 12 months to build a 9,000 square-foot-facility for Family Dollar, utility issues notwithstanding, and this I profess from experience — we know all too well that you severed AT&T's fiber optic cable leaving residents without TV, phone and internet service — we also know how during demolition you snapped the electric wires to the apartment building adjacent to your site and required the fire department to rope off my neighbors property to prevent sparking — we know you work 7 days a week and wake us up with your noisy equipment at 7 am, even on a Sunday morning (wait! Is that allowed near a residential neighborhood?).

 We know you interrupted Cox service to Garfield Middle School and had to work all through the night to restore service. Discount Drug Mart’s contractor seems to be making more progress than the contractor for Family Dollar with a far larger square footage.

Two facilities with similar goods and services shouldn't be slated to open so close to one another. Competition being what it is, who will attract the customer first — Family Dollar started their project in July 2012, Discount Drug Mart in November 2012 — which one will reach the finish line first?

I, for one, would like to enjoy my spring/summer outside, swinging on my porch, without all the noise and air pollution generated by inadequate project management.

I called the contractor in charge of the Family Dollar construction site (your sign flaps in the wind for all to see) and he didn't even have the decency to return my call. I think the residents of Cohassett/Grace have a right to know when you plan to bring these two projects to fruition.

It would make the construction more bearable, don't you think?

Related Topics: Discount Drug Mart, Discount Drug Mart Lakewood, Family Dollar, Family Dollar Lakewood, and Marie-France Schreiber

Alexandra

7:24 am on Sunday, March 10, 2013

No offense, but what makes Grace residents so special? I have $250,000 condos at the end of my street and had to endure all similar issues. My children GO to Garfield so I know about the accidental outtage.
I respect that they are annoyed, but they also forget we live in Ohio and some projects cannot be completed in 20-30 degrees. The Get Go project picked up when they had a few warm days. It is now done and doing great. I had to endure lots of construction vehicles I did not want either for 9-11 months. It will be done soon. Drug Mart is scheduled to OPEN in May, not June. I know because I had worked in the Pharmacy.

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M-F Schreiber

5:10 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

I don't consider myself special, Alexandra, because I live on Grace. Construction, commercial, residential or other is all annoying to those who have to endure it. Ohio isn't special for construction. All commercial construction projects in all 50 states have weather related issues. It's built into the timeline. FYI - DDM poured concrete and built their steel structure in high winds, snow and cold weather. Family Dollar's issue is lack of manpower and a super MIA. If they want to build it, they will find a way. GetGo put up an closed plastic tent to finish their building in the cold weather to meet their Grand Opening.

Aubrey Birchard

8:54 am on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Family dollar started the tear down the sane time as getgo new site did and getgo has been up and running for atleast a month so what really is taking drug mart and family dollar so long

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Steve

11:59 am on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Some of you people need to take a chill-pill. Progress takes time, noware did I see a statement that this project would be done overnite. It will be done soon enough and help the East end of Lakewood. Anything is better than nothing, keep reminding your selves of that fact.

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Patch reader

11:14 am on Tuesday, April 30, 2013

You are the one who needs to take a chill-pill. Or keep your trap shut until you have walked in Ms Screibers shoes.

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ian king

5:23 pm on Tuesday, April 30, 2013

Hey Patch Reader - just wanted to let you know that many of us commenting here on this blog have walked in those same shoes, but we found Ms. Screiber's particular size a bit too small-minded/narrow for us. So we found that by trying on a larger size/bigger perspective the fit is perfecto!

Jimmy Williams

2:29 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Good grief people. Are any of the complainers in the construction industry? With all due respect how do you know how long it takes to complete a 9000 sq ft building? It's not an easy task to pour concrete or lay block in frigid temperatures......its almost impossible. Calling the contractor to complain will get you nowhere. I'm sure they have schedules to meet and are trying their best....harrassing them doesn't help. I'm an inspector in the construction industry and I hear this crap all the time. Suck it up......it will be done when its done

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M-F Schreiber

4:51 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

The COMPLAINER happens to be the wife of a 30-year veteran in the construction industry. My husband builds Family Dollars and million dollar commercial construction projects at the national level. We know what it takes to build a facility out of ground -- He co-managed the CVS on Clifton/117th Street. It should take 10-12 weeks to erect a building, weather permittiing. If you are an inspector, you can't be one for the city of Lakewood, or you would find this particular construction site sloppy at best. Contractors are used to dealing with this kind of crap...it's their job. Having a little courtesy goes a long way to acceptance. I believe in accountability for all parties concerned. I WILL NOT suck it up. I did not contact the contractor to harrass him but to find out what the estimated completion date is slated to be.

Renee

4:04 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Having been through the Get Go construction, I feel your pain and I understand the aggravation especially if the project is something you do not support. The least the contractor could do is exercise some customer service or appoint someone to address it! The contractor who did Get Go visited each of our homes personally to let us know he was starting and gave us his card and said if there were any complaints to call him directly about it. I hate Get Go, and do not shop there, but I appreciated that. Even if they can't do anything about the problems the least they can do is listen to the complaints, respond appropriately, professionally and without all the attitude. They will be leaving when it is over, the rest of us have to live here...Jimmy Williams, I would like to see you "suck it up" when you are inconvenienced and when something affects your home. My guess is that you don't do much "sucking it up" either being that you are in the construction industry and someone who has control over the construction itself.

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M-F Schreiber

5:01 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

BTW Jimmy. Even Family Dollar Corporate is dissatisfied with the progress of this store. Their own sub-contractors substantiate this. Construction projects clearly follow a timeline -- when they fall off their schedules, they usually try to make it up somewhere (weather improves, they work longer hours, etc.) -- it doesn't get done when it gets done. This isn't a home renovation! Grand opening dates never change without penalties to the GC.

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ian king

6:23 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Hi M-F Schreiber, obviously, you have had a lucky experience living in Lakewood.
For most of us, it is a noisy town! Having lived at 117th and the Edgewater area and now at Lake and Nicholson area, there is hardly a day when some kind of urban noise is not heard: late night party cars, early morning delivery trucks, lots of traffic in am and pm rush hours, and on and on. I mean, this is life in a densely populated city. The concept of sitting quietly on a swing just is not the reality for a lot of folks living in condos and apt. buildings. You should be counting your blessings you can have that experience in Lakewood. A lot of us can't! And, just a quick quesiton, when you purchased your home so close to Detroit Ave., did you not think about the traffic, and potential for business development? I mean, everyone knows it is the main business street for Lakewood? I guess I would not have taken than risk, and bought away from both Detroit and Madison, as they have always been major commerical - not residential - areas.

ian king

6:16 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Well, it doesn't surprise me that when the "hood activists" couldn't derail the new DrugMart and new Family Dollar store they now complain about the building of these tax revenue/job creating businesses for ALL the folks who live in Lakewood. I can hear it now - after they open - the noise in the early Am for inventory delivery, and then the high school kids hanging out in the parking lot at midnight. It will never end. To all who folks who bought less than a couple blocks from the main drag of Lakewood - DETROIT AVE. - what did you expect? Boutique hotels, small coffee houses, medical clinics/dentist offices? This is the business district of Lakewood, and anyone should realize that you take a risk buying your home less than a few blocks away. That is just urban living. And if you want noise, try living in one of the Gold Coast Condos - there is almost nonstop rehab always going on - drilling through concrete wall and floors, pounding and putting in wood floors, knocking down walls... I wish we would have the few months of noise that the hood neighbors are now experiencing..... Instead, we get almost daily, 50 weeks/5 days a week some kind of noise. But if you want to live in an inner-ring suburb, you just get used to it. Or move!

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dougmoore

6:42 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

WELL..look whos reduced to name-calling..Ian please tell all of the Lakewoodites who have inhaled too much RUST what a "hood activist" is..you continue to educate us! I imagine its different from a hood ornament.

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Barbara Greene

7:46 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

I must think the approval process for these projects was ill-considered and the city's oversight of them lax at best. City Hall couldn't care less sbout the citizens as long as the money keeps rollong in.

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vernon

2:31 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

and what does the money do? it pays for services you receive or expect, or would you prefer to pay more taxes instead?

Renee

8:28 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Ian, I think you and I have gone at it before over the Get go issue and your solution to everything is always "you bought that close to Detroit" and "if you don't like it, move." I am getting pretty sick of hearing that. I disagree that it is impossible to enjoy a porch swing when many houses in Lakewood actually do enjoy a porch and a porch swing. It seems to me that if you chose to live in an apartment without one, you are the one who should consider moving. Some of us may have lived our entire lives in our homes and were raised there so it is more than just "if you don't like it, move." I care about Lakewood and I have the good fortune to be able to live in the house I was raised in 30 plus years now and I don't want to move!!!! I did not choose to buy here, my parents did, and I am not complaining about that but you should consider that not everyone's circumstances are the same and just moving is not always an option. I want the City to consider its long time residents who want to stay and continue to make Lakewood their home. My kids are third generation and I don't think the solution is to tell people to move if they don't like it. People wonder why everyone is moving out of Lakewood well, it is because the City does not care about its citizens and what they want specifically those who are personally impacted by their development decisions. I am talking about close proximity neighbors to these places. Lake/Nicholson area is hardly close proximity in my view.

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ian king

12:20 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

Hi Renee,
Lakewood is an inner-ring suburb, which basically means half urban/half suburb living. It is not Avon or Bay Village, which have little elements of real urban/city living.
As a newer resident to Lakewood, I can appreciate the nostaligic perspectives of a lifestyle now gone. This is not a choice suburb in NE Ohio. The growth is in Strongsville and the Independence areas. Lakewood HAS TO ATTRACT any kind of business to survive. Or continue losing its populaiton. The main reason Lakewood is on the decline is not that the City doesn't care about its citizens - it is the fact the city is full of aging folks who have limited incomes and don't support a lot of new businesses and let their houses deteriorate; most of the housing stock of Lakewood is charming, but not conducive to today's family lifestyles = small kitchens, limited closets and bathrooms, small lots,etc.; declining and overbuilt apartment complexes whose landlords rarely repair/rehab or update - do you really want to rent a place with no airconditioning, no dishwashers in the units? and lets not forget the high taxes = both property and income-based = we all pay for the "luxury" of living in Lakewood. I commend the Mayor for doing whatever it takes to bring new business revenue and new jobs to this population declining town. And if that creates a little noise and convenience for long term residents, well, I repeat, move on to Bay Village, Avon, Strongsville, etc.

angelo

12:04 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

I would have to agree with Mr. King. I live on Detroit Avenue next to where Drug Mart is moving from and where Value World is moving to. I'm not thrilled about the new property owner but it's not my property to decide. I know too well the noise of Detroit Avenue living. My business contributes to it. Still, for me the plusses outweigh the minuses and I choose to live here. Lakewood is not a bedroom community with the exception of a few small areas. If you think things will be quiet once construction ends think again. Think frequent car alarms going off in the parking lots. Also, you live across from a Middle school. How quiet can it be?

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Pat Ballasch

12:42 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

Best of luck to the flack catchers at City Hall that field the complaints. Most things in the process of development have some discomfort and adjustment. It's a lot like pregnancy. I'll guess we'll be hearing about noise & mud in the street down on Edgewater when the demolition/ build is going on. Again, best of luck to the people at city hall & the police department. May they have patience & compassion. I'm happy to see our city building & improving rather than deteriorating due to the ravages of time.

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Jimmy Williams

5:56 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

To Renee and MF I am a structural steel inspector and work for a 3rd party lab. Unfortunately we are not involved in these projects. My street was torn up the entire summer last year for water main and sanitary replacement. I had to "endure" noise, traffic, no parking in my driveway......dust.....you name it. I did suck it up. No complaining. No whining. I even came home to the contractors vehicle parked in my driveway. Not a big deal......they were polite and grateful that I let them stay there. I have been in the construction industry myself for going on 30 years. So yeah I do know. I don't know any of you personally and frankly don't care to. There are so many other more important issues in Lakewood other than your discomfort. Now if you'll excuse me I am going to enjoy my nice quiet construction free area of lakewood........what is it they say? Location Location Location........lol have a nice day

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Mark Rogers

10:36 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

MF ...It's people like you who are the problem, DEAL with IT!!, it's the way of the world and technology ie AT&T changes and we have to adapt, I'm 100% sure that the home that you love so much and want to enjoy, was a nusaince to someone else when it was built and im sure you've had improvement done over the years that may have conflicted with someone elses opinions, they delt with it and so can you, if you can't deal with the way a growing and aging city works, then leave and join a gated community with a set of bi-laws and you can vote on them and crow all you want about what you dont like..If you dont agree with the way things work, stay in your gated community and leave the rest of us who can cope with change, alone!!! People with a sense of entitlement are the problem, You wanna make a valuable change in the way things opperate??? Try and make the city line move back W117th street where it once was, incase you havent noticed, Crime, Drugs, Theft, Violence have long since moved West and are quickly creeping into your neighborhood, leave legit bussiness' and the hard working people who are trying to do their job alone and get ready for the feeling that Eastern Lakewood is about to lay upon you and your neighborhood , Now stand up to that!!!

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Mark Rogers

10:56 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

^^^ Sorry this still drives me nuts, Uppity people, At least they closed your street from the direct traffic of the work, most of us dont get that courtesy, but if you spend all your efforts on this, soon that building will be done, and you can swing on your porch and enjoy it when the house next to you becomes section 8 and 12 people move in with ZERO ethics, and they park in YOUR driveway, and make noise constantlyand their family and friends start vandalizing your property and stealing your things, and bring down your neighborhood, you'd pray for a building to go up next to you to get rid of that non sense, Trust me its coming, ive been in Lakewood forever and it's not anything close what it has been, open your eyes to it and try and change that.....

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ian king

5:29 pm on Tuesday, April 30, 2013

RIGHT ON MARK! The truth hurts, but ultimately will set us free! (by free, i mean, free to move away from 117th, away from detroit ave! LOL)

M-F Schreiber

1:38 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013

You are right, Mark. I should have thought twice 5 years ago before moving to Lakewood from Chicago. It reminded me of Oak Park, Illinois where third generation contractors made an impact on a once crumbling city, with its century old homes, its dense population and its proximity to a downtown that is walkable. I agree with you, I should just pack up my bags and get out of dodge...to paraphrase Ian...why would I want to pay so many taxes, including my self-employment taxes to the City of Lakewood, and live in this "rust bucket" when clearly I have no understanding of living in a densely, crime ridden, violent, thiefing city. I was impressed with your schools and your orchestra program for my kids. In 5 years, I've lived in two rental properties, Waterbury and Cohassett, have enjoyed my kids attend Harrison ES (Birdtown-not safe I was told), Garfield MS, and Lakewood HS, to finally settle in a home I coveted since I toured it in 2007.

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M-F Schreiber

1:39 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013

Uppity people, I am not. I live next to the boarding house and Garfield MS, I think I know what you're referring to. CRIME...I think after living and working in Chicago, I've experienced it all. Lakewood is a great community with a lot of potential. My BEEF here isn't the actual construction going up on Detroit two doors down from me, but making the contractor acccountable for his site and completing the project, which I believe, based on the facts, should have been concluded by now. Why don't you contact Family Dollar and find out how satisfied they are with the target date. Every day this site is not open costs them money. Commercial construction moves at a faster pace then residential for that very reason. Get it built, so it can turn a profit. But, I will take your advice, and walk away from my investment because I had no clue what I was buying into. It's people like you who foster the exodus of people from Lakewood and/or Cleveland. I don't DEAL with it. I STAND up to whatever I deem is a problem. And finally, I get INVOLVED. I'm sorry I drive you nuts. It's a free country, with free speech. We're all entitled to our opinions.

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ian king

4:31 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013

Please M-F, calm down a bit! I think you are generating such hostile responses here since your complaint about noise and a few months of inconvenience next door just doesn't make a lot of sense to many of us Lakewoodites who live with noise all year long - car alarms, noisy neighbors, EMS sirens, track whistles, construction, road repairs, etc. It seems that you have been very lucky to have not had these disruptions in your years in Lakewood, but for most of us, they are part of life in an inner-ring decades old suburb. To be totally honest, your comments have a whiny quality to them that I think perhaps is being misread, but, taken with the history of the hood activists who vehemently opposed the building of the new Drug Mart and Family Dollar store - well, I think you must be able to understand where a lot of folks are coming here. Construction timelines as almost everyone knows are never, NEVER, done by target dates. Commercial construction is not always faster than residential either - code delays, weather, multi-job locations, etc.
I guess it is just hard to really accept your complaints as undue hardships in an urban area. And I agree with Jimmy's post, LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.
Detroit Avenue is a commercial area. Choosing to buy/live within a couple of blocks of Detroit, well, is your choice, but it obviously will have limitations regarding privacy and levels of noise.

Patch reader

11:10 am on Tuesday, April 30, 2013

"we know all too well that you severed AT&T's fiber optic cable leaving residents without TV, phone and internet service — we know you work 7 days a week and wake us up with your noisy equipment at 7 am, even on a Sunday morning (wait! Is that allowed near a residential neighborhood?).

Why is it that people that don't have these problems always manage to have a smarmy word (attack the victim) instead of directing their criticism for those who are making so many people's lives miserable?

How many of the people who are calling M-F Schreiber a 'whiner' would be willing to put up with THIS.

There are city ordinances stating when contractors can start work. If they were waking me up at 7 a.m., I'd be livid and have more than a few 'choice' words for those who abuse work laws.

I haven't seen anyone mention this. I guess its ok when it happens to OTHER people.

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ian king

5:13 pm on Tuesday, April 30, 2013

dear patch reader - sounds like green acres/farm livin is the life for thee!
not the city/urban/inner ring lifestyle of lakewood. short term development and all that comes with it - noise, inconvenience, congestion, disruptions, etc. - in any urban area is a basic accepted fact of life. to not expect it or accept it, well, i guess is what one could call/label "whining."

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